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Armando Iannucci: are politicians obsolete? | Westminster Reimagined

The New Statesman | UK politics and culture

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🗓️ 20 April 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The legendary writer, satirist and broadcaster Armando Iannucci returns to the New Statesman podcast to co-host five more special episodes. In these shows, Iannucci explores parts of British public life he believes to be broken, and is joined by guests from both inside and outside Westminster to discuss how politics could be better.


In this episode, Armando and Anoosh Chakelian examine whether people or politicians make change happen – and ask whether activists are letting the government off the hook.


They are joined by special guests Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah, a grassroots campaigner raising awareness of the health problems caused by air pollution, and Gary Stevenson, an economist and former interest rate trader who now campaigns about wealth inequality. 


They discuss single-issue campaigns and how to get your message out there, why no one in Westminster is working class and whether change happens despite politicians, not because of them.


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0:00.0

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0:35.0

Hi, I'm Anouche and I'm Avandou. Welcome back to Westminstery imagined,

0:39.7

a special series on the New Statement podcast that looks at how politics works and if it can be

0:44.0

done better. In this episode, we'll be joined by economist and former trader Gary Stevenson

0:48.8

and grassroots campaigner against air pollution, Rosamond Adoucensidebra, to discuss how to make

0:53.6

change outside Westminster. Now, Armando, why are we discussing this what we're calling parallel

1:04.7

politics? Parallel, I think, because especially with the last four or five years,

1:10.0

single issue campaigns have grown in prominence and I think more and more people are turning away

1:16.7

from the traditional party model of how politics works and injecting their passion for a topic

1:23.3

or passion for a cause into campaigning outside Westminster. Now whether that involves working

1:29.3

alongside elected officials, MPs, councillors or whatever or seeking to have some change,

1:35.8

raising awareness of an issue or a change in legislation from completely from outside getting

1:40.8

popular public backing, I think has become much more prominent in the last three or four years.

1:45.2

So I thought it'd be interesting to talk to two people for very different reasons,

1:50.1

with very different subjects, have decided to campaign outside the Westminster bubble.

1:55.2

Yeah, and we've seen so many examples in recent years of this. Jack Monroe, for example,

1:59.4

changing the way that the ONS is going to display how inflation is impacting people,

2:03.7

for example, Marcus Rashford campaigning for free school meals for children over the school holidays

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