You're listening to the Michaelber Show. Okay, everybody. It's Michael Schurmer and it's time for a special episode of the Michael Schurmer show.

This recorded on Thursday, October 12th of the week that Hamas invaded Israel.

My guest today is Rabbi David Wolpe, who is a long time friend,

but let me give him a proper introduction.

He was named the most influential rabbi in America

by Newsweek, and one of the 50 most influential Jews in the world by the Jerusalem Post and

twice named as one of the 500 most influential people in Los Angeles by the

Los Angeles Business Journal. David is the Max Webb Senior Rabbi of Sinai Temple. I

think that's ameritist now, right? Because you are now, yeah, you are now a visiting scholar at Harvard Divinity School and the inaugural rabbinical fellow at the ADL.

Rabbi Volpe previously taught at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America in New York,

the American Jewish University in Los Angeles, Hunter College, and UCLA.

He's a weekly columnist for the New York Jewish Week and weekly Torah columnist for the Jerusalem Post.

He's been published in the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post Time,

Newsweek, The Atlantic, and many more places.

You've seen him on the Today Show, Face The Nation, ABC this morning, CBS this morning, and he has done a number

of widely viewed public debates with none other than Christopher Hitchin, Sam Harris, Richard

Dawkins, Stephen Pinker, Michael

Schiller, oh that's me and many others about religion and its place in the

world his books include making loss matter, creating meaning in difficult

times that may come up today in our

conversation his new book is titled David the divided heart from Yale University

press which was a finalist for the National Jewish Book Awards and has been

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