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Hi this is Anne from Pennsylvania. Right now I'm standing at the bottom of a flight of stairs, working on my physical therapy for my sore foot.

When I'm done, I plan to hike all the way up the stairs.

This podcast was recorded at 12.38 PM on Tuesday, November 14th.

By the time new year, things may have changed. For instance I plan to have climbed all the way

up the stairs and gone to bed. Enjoy the show.

You have to do that physical therapy. You have to do it. Don't give up on it.

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Susan Davis. I cover politics.

I'm As Mich machala, I cover the White House. And I'm Maraleeison National Political Correspondent.

And Asma, you just got back from Arizona, one of the most important states in the 2024 election.

And this is a state where independence now are the largest

voting block. They outnumber both Democrats and Republicans. So today we're

going to talk about what it might take to win that independent vote.

Asma, demographically, Arizona is a really interesting state.

It's diverse in terms of age, in terms of race, and all these groups want very different

things. That's right, that's right.

And you know, when you mentioned it's diversity, Sue,

one of the things I will say that I think is so striking

demographically about Arizona

is that, you know, we always hear about how the younger and the older population of the United States

looks really different. Well that divide is magnified in Arizona more so than

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