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Fresh Air

Arizona's Anti-Democracy Experiment

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🗓️ 18 August 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

2020 election deniers won key races in the Arizona GOP primary. New York Times Magazine journalist Robert Draper says the swing state is a bellwether for the rest of the nation.

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WHY Wise Fresh Air and its commitment to sharing ideas and encouraging meaningful conversation.

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This is Fresh Air, I'm Tariq Rose.

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In his article, The Arizona Republican Party's Anti-Democracy Experiment, my guest Robert

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Draper writes that Arizona first turned against the establishment.

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Now it said it cites undemocracy, the principles, the process, and even the

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word itself.

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He's been following Arizona State politics for the past year and watched as election

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deniers and conspiracy theorists beat their opponents in key Republican primary races,

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including Secretary of State, the position that oversees elections.

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Draper has been covering conservative politics for about 20 years and is the author of

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the books to start a war, how the Bush administration took America into Iraq, when the Tea Party

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came to town, and did certain the presidency of George W. Bush.

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His next book, Weapons of Mass Delusion, when the Republican Party lost its mind, will

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be published in October.

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His new article about the Arizona Republican Party's Swing to the Far Right is published

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in the New York Times magazine and is already on the Times website.

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We recorded our interview yesterday.

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Robert Draper, welcome back to Fresh Air.

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Thanks for having me on, Tariq.

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Why did you decide to make Arizona your focus when looking at how the Republican Party has

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been swinging to the right?

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