First phone call when you get good news. I love you Brandon but my mom.

Okay, first phone call when you get bad news. I love you Brandon but my mom.

I'm Carly Zaken. I'm Danielle Weisberg.

Welcome to Skim from the Couch.

This podcast is where we go deep on career advice

from women who have lived it.

From the good stuff like hiring and growing a team.

To the rough stuff, like negotiating your salary. like

negotiating your salary and giving or getting hard feedback.

We started the skim from a couch, so what better place to talk it all out than where it began on a couch.

So please welcome Arielle Charness to the couch. In 2009, when Ariel was just 22 years old,

she started a style blog that you may have heard of

called something Navy.

We'll let her tell that story,

but since then, she's gained a following of more than a million people and

she's become a super influencer. In 2017 her very first collection with

Nordstrom drove more than a million dollars in sales in one day.

And then she launched her brand with Nordstrom,

which was so popular that they crashed the website.

No big deal.

Now she's rolling out more and more collections with the retailer.

Along the way Ariel has had to learn how to be her own boss and how to preserve her

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