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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Arianna Huffington on sleep, death, and social media

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2016

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Arianna Huffington is, of course, the editor and namesake of the Huffington Post, one of the true juggernauts of the new media world. But her path to that position has been a winding one. She was a prominent conservative — and a confidante of Newt Gingrich — in the 1990s. Her first web site was actually dedicated to persuading Bill Clinton to resign from the presidency. The Huffington Post came later, and the stress of it nearly destroyed her. After fainting from exhaustion and seriously injuring herself, she embarked on a quest to reevaluate both her and America's attitude towards work, towards sleep, and towards wellness. The result, she says, has made her a better leader — and a more well-rested one. Arianna and I also talk about:- How she launched the Huffington Post- Her strategy for persuading celebrities and experts to contribute to her site, often for free- What she learned launching versions of the Huffington Post in 15 other countries- How she knows when she's burnt out- How Huffington Post reinvented itselffor the age of social media- Why she doesn't believe in death- Her favorite books And much more. Enjoy!This episode is sponsored by The Great Courses Plus. Visit TheGreatCoursesPlus.com/EZRA to stream hundreds of courses for free! And by MeUndies. Visit MeUndies.com/EZRA for 20% off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:09.6

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Ezra Client Show.

0:13.1

I'm excited this week to have Ariana Huffington on the show.

0:16.8

Ariana Huffington obviously is the founder and namesake of the Huffington Post,

0:20.8

which is if you don't read it, although you probably do, just a monolithic.

0:25.6

Has just become a new media, Jagannah was really important in defining the first wave of

0:32.0

search-driven traffic in new media and then it's become really, really powerful in the second

0:35.8

wave of social-driven traffic. So we talk a lot about the building of the Huffington Post,

0:40.5

how it works, how their global expansion has gone, how they rebuilt themselves from search to

0:45.6

social. Ariana is very interesting and thoughtful and forthcoming on that. It is particularly

0:50.8

for me who's interested in these things. A really great conversation. We also talk about her

0:55.1

fascinating background in politics. Ariana Huffington was a conservative, but when she first came

1:00.0

on the political scene, she was good friends with Newt Gingrich. Her first website was resignation.com,

1:05.8

which was trying to elicit Bill Clinton's resignation during the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

1:10.8

We talk a bit about her new book, which is about sleep and why you should be getting more of it.

1:16.2

She has in recent years really been trying to push against what she sees as the American culture

1:20.8

of overwork and under sleep and poor work life balance. I am probably part of that culture,

1:26.4

so I ask her a lot of questions about that. And frankly, I found her answers gave me a lot to think

1:31.2

about in the time after we conducted the interview. We also, of course, talk about her favorite books.

1:36.0

One thing we talk about, which I was not expecting, is why she does not believe in death as a concept.

1:40.8

Yes, death, the extinction of human life. So that is interesting and worth paying some attention

1:46.8

to in there. This is a great conversation. I really enjoyed it. I'm appreciative to her for having

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