ARGUMENT ALERT! The Matts clash over Tourette’s row
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Before the Matts start kicking lumps out of each other, they enjoy the relative calm of a brief discussion on the smokescreen around the arrest of Peter Mandelson. Then it all kicks off as they explore the ramifications of the N-word Bafta Tourette’s row. It would take about 1,000 words to explain the points of difference, so just click play and enjoy!
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| 0:54.8 | Any sense of prejudice is being drummed up by Mandelson's legal team themselves is, well, I mean, |
| 1:04.7 | it could be argued as a very cynical move to try and create an environment where the case never comes to court. |
| 1:13.8 | I'm very glad and very impressed by the fact that the late Virginia Giffrae's siblings |
| 1:20.0 | keep appearing on the networks to remind us what is at the centre of all this. |
| 1:27.4 | Well, John Stuart Mill would say that there's a clear difference between offence and harm, right? |
| 1:33.3 | I thought, for more than full me, that I'd made clear at the start, anticipating this, that I wasn't having a go at John Davidson. |
| 1:50.0 | Hello and happy Thursday. Happy Thursday one and all. |
| 1:57.6 | Hope you're all having a great week. Matt, we want to talk about the huge Ferrari around the BAFTAs last weekend. But before we get into that, and I think that is going to be maybe one of those conversations |
| 2:05.8 | where you and I have a difference of opinion, perhaps. |
| 2:08.4 | Could be. |
| 2:09.4 | Could be. |
| 2:10.4 | But before we get into that, we just wanted to spend a few minutes talking about the oddity |
| 2:16.3 | of the way the news around Peter Mandelson's arrest |
| 2:19.7 | has been handled since that story broke earlier this week. |
| 2:23.9 | Yes, it is very strange, isn't it? |
| 2:25.4 | It's been overtaken, hasn't it, with an argument, a debate around the manner of his |
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