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Witness History

Argentina’s national genetics bank created to identify stolen babies

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In 1982, Argentine geneticist Victor Penchaszadeh was living in exile in New York when he received a call that would change the course of his career.

Two founding members of the campaign group, the Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo, were asking for his help to find their kidnapped grandchildren.

Between 1976 and 1983, Argentina was under military rule. During this period, thousands of mainly young, left-wing people were forcibly disappeared - taken to clandestine detention centres, where many were tortured and killed. Hundreds of babies were born in captivity. Their mothers were later murdered, and the children were often given to families with ties to the regime - and never told their true identities.

The Grandmothers travelled the world, desperately asking scientists one question: Without the presence of the parents, could their blood be used to identify their lost grandchildren?

Dr Penchaszadeh was the first to say yes.

He tells Vicky Farncombe how that answer led to the creation of the world’s first national genetic data bank—and the eventual reunion of 140 grandchildren with their real families.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more.

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(Photo: Estela de Carlotto is reunited with her lost grandchild Ignacio Hurban. Credit: Reuters)

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We're going back to the 1980s and the creation of the world's first national bank of genetic data.

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It was set up to reunite kidnapped children in Argentina with their real families.

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In a given moment, we considered that in addition to finding the children,

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we had to prove that they were our grandchildren.

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And that's where we ask for the help of science.

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We travel the world looking for answers to be able to locate and prove that the children

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