Hi, my name's Kramer and I am proud to admit that I am a mama's boy.

You're not just any mama's boy, you're a certified mama's boy.

And this is the certified mama's boy podcast.

Hi, mom.

Hi, honey.

What's get you so emotional about throwing things out right now?

My mom, by the way, is a pack rat.

So to hear that you're throwing things out is like shocking to me.

Amazing isn't it? My mom if you've been here through the four-year journey of

certified mama's boy then you know that my mom is, would you say a hoarder, is hoarder the right word or?

No.

Hoorder adjacent.

No.

Like if you had, if you had a few more items in your house we'd have to consider you a

hoarder but like you're just there. No. No. You do like a lot of stuff though. I just have a

lot of treasures. treasures.

That's exactly what they say on the show hoarders before they have to go on there with the police

they're like the dumpsters and everything so yes you do have a lot of

treasures.

But recently, what's come over you?

You've, I feel like you've been changing your ways recently.

Well, I was inspired because for the first time, since we've lived here in nine years I can use

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