Are Young People Trying to Escape the Internet?
Bulwark Takes
The Bulwark
4.7 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 29 April 2026
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Conor Kilgore and Rachel Janfaza discuss why Noah Kahan has become a defining voice for Gen Z—and what his music reveals about a generation shaped by COVID, social media overload, and constant comparison. They get into the mental health themes, the push to log off and reconnect with real life, and why so many young people feel nostalgic for a world they never actually lived in.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey guys, it's Connor Kilgore here at the Bullwork. |
| 0:03.0 | I am usually a behind the scenes person, but today Sarah Longwell let me out of the dungeon |
| 0:08.0 | where she keeps me doing focus groups and you know, helping sort through which kinds of focus groups we're going to lob at our community every week. |
| 0:16.0 | And I'm joined by Rachel Jen Faza, who is one of the other zoomer qual people here at the bulwark. |
| 0:21.4 | And today we're going to talk about something that is near and dear to both of our hearts, |
| 0:24.6 | and that is also dominating the iTunes charts today. |
| 0:28.6 | So the number one album on iTunes, the day we're recording this, is an album called The Great |
| 0:34.1 | Divide by Noah Khan. |
| 0:35.6 | Noah Khan is a barely Gen Z folk singer from |
| 0:39.5 | Strafford, Vermont. I guess I'll let Rachel start and just tell us a little bit about who this |
| 0:44.6 | guy is, why he means so much to all of us. And he's also sort of a cultural artifact of Gen Z, which |
| 0:52.4 | I think people can learn a lot about. |
| 0:54.8 | Precisely. There are plenty of things we can glean from this, but I'm very glad that |
| 0:59.1 | Connor, you're out in the daylight talking about Noah Khan with me. I feel like this was how |
| 1:04.6 | we bonded early on in our friendship. It totally was. Well, I'm from southern New Hampshire and |
| 1:10.1 | Rachel. You're from the Boston area. And so |
| 1:12.2 | Noah Khan is, I think, for many New Englanders and younger New Englanders, what Bruce Springsteen is for |
| 1:18.5 | the state of New Jersey and more working class people from New Jersey. Another way to think about it is, like, |
| 1:23.9 | Gen Z, Stomp Klapp music, like Mumford and Sons, that kind of thing. |
| 1:27.6 | I found out about him, and I think it was like 2017. |
| 1:30.7 | I remember actually my friend, who was a student at Dartmouth at the time in Hanover, New Hampshire, |
| 1:35.3 | which is right near Stratford, Vermont, had, and I believe Noa Khan had lived between the two, |
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