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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Are You Trapped In High-Functioning Depression? with Dr. Judith Joseph

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.921.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Check out the JVN Patreon for exclusive BTS content, extra interviews, and much much more - check it out here: www.patreon.com/jvn  JVN is joined by the brilliant Dr. Judith Joseph, a board-certified psychiatrist and researcher, to explore high-functioning depression — what it is, how to recognize it, and why so many people struggle with it in silence. Together, they break down the signs that often go unnoticed, unpack the stigma around seeking help when things "seem fine," and share tools for finding support and healing. Whether you're curious about your own mental health or looking to better understand a loved one, this episode is for you.  Full Getting Better Video Episodes now available on YouTube.  Not A Phase.  Trans Lifeline Follow Dr. Judith Joseph on Instagram @drjudithjoseph  Follow us on Instagram @gettingbetterwithjvn Jonathan on Instagram @jvn Senior Producer, Chris McClure Producer, Editor & Engineer is Nathanael McClure Production support from Anne Currie and Chad Hall Our theme music is also composed by Nathanael McClure. Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email [email protected]. DISCLAIMER: This episode includes a discussion of mental health, including high-functioning depression, neurodivergence, and suicide. While we’re joined by a licensed medical professional, the content of this podcast is intended for informational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listening to this episode does not establish a doctor-patient relationship. If you or someone you know is struggling, please seek help from a qualified healthcare provider. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, please contact a mental health professional or reach out to a suicide prevention hotline in your area. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, better babes. Welcome back to getting better today. We are talking about something that I need to talk about.

0:07.0

Depression, high functioning depression, burnout, ADHD, mental health. What is going on with the state of mental health?

0:13.7

Dr. Judith Joseph is a psychiatrist. She's an author and she's an all-around mental, like, health literal doctor badass who is going to teach

0:22.3

us about the differences between ADHD, ADD, high functioning depression, burnout, all the

0:27.0

things. Dr. Joseph, how are you? I'm great. It's so good to see you. I love you to pieces. I also am

0:32.4

obsessed with your name. I love alliterations. So you are a clinical psychiatrist, a scientist,

0:37.4

and an educator who breaks down complex mental health topics in a way that's deeply human and hopeful.

0:44.1

Honey, are you not the medicine that the world needs?

0:47.0

So let's start here.

0:48.2

The motto of your lab is understand the science of your happiness.

0:51.8

What does that really mean?

0:53.1

Well, you know, there's only one

0:54.4

you. There will only ever be one you, right? There's only one me. But I find that many

0:59.9

a times we try to like use what other people are using that makes them happy. And then we end up

1:05.4

feeling like, well, that didn't work. What did I do wrong? We're deflated. We get depressed.

1:13.8

We get discouraged. And I, and what I tell my patience is that why are you using someone else's science? First, understand the science of your

1:19.6

happiness. How do you know what's going to make you happy? If you don't even take the time to

1:24.3

understand what's making you unhappy. So when you understand

1:27.8

where you're losing your points of joy, then you can be strategic and intentional and put back

1:33.2

those points in the right place. What's the difference between happiness and joy? And why does that

1:38.0

matter? Well, I have a lab not far from here. And I also have a research. so I have a research lab not far from here and a

1:45.3

private practice. In the research practice, we study the science of happiness. So we add up all

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