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where we help people build wealth, do work that they love, and create actual amazing relationships.

I'm Dave Ramsey, your host.

Thank you for joining us.

Ken Coleman, Ramsey Personality, number one bestselling author and host of the Ken Coleman

show is my co-host today.

So in the 1860s, there was a famous poet, a lady. and host of the Ken Coleman Show is my co-host today.

So in the 1860s, there was a famous poet,

a lady named Sarah Hale.

She was the editor of a book called Goodies Ladies' book.

She penned the famous nursery rhyme, Mary had a little lamb.

And for 17 years, beginning in 1846, she wrote to the president of the United States,

and she was influential and known, so they would have received her letters.

Plus, back then, people actually could just walk into the White House.

It was a different world, of course. And for 17 years, she would write to the president as a well-known figure, asking the president to formalize a day of Thanksgiving as a national holiday. In the middle

of the Civil War, 18 months before the Civil War was to end, in 1863, Abraham Lincoln decided to do

that.

And his Secretary of State, Seward, who wrote a lot of his speeches with Lincoln.

Lincoln was known for his ability to speak, but Seward did a lot of his writing.

And Seward wrote out the proclamation and the President of the United States, Abraham Lincoln,

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