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Angels and Awakening

Are You Mad at Me? Healing the Fawn Response with Meg Josephson

Angels and Awakening

Julie Jancius: Spiritual Guide, Intuitive Reiki Healer, Psychic Medium, Teacher

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Have questions about The Angel Membership or the Angel Reiki School?Book a free Discovery Call with Julie 📞https://calendly.com/juliejancius/discovery-call   Angel Reiki School (Online) 💻Starts the 1st of every month 🔄Learn from anywhere 🌍https://theangelmedium.com/get-certified   Book a 1-on-1 Angel Reading With Julie 👼Connect with your angels and loved ones in Heaven ❤️https://theangelmedium.com/readings   Want a Free Reading? 🎁We’re selecting 50+ volunteers for free readings at the in-person Angel Reiki School.Leave a 5-star review of the podcast and copy/paste it here for a shot to win 🌟https://theangelmedium.com/contact   Beautiful souls, today we dive deep with psychotherapist Meg Josephson into the 'fawn response'—a survival mechanism where we abandon ourselves to please others. If you’ve ever felt trapped in people-pleasing, hypervigilance, or the 'am I too sensitive?' shame spiral, this episode unpacks why. We explore how fawning shapes relationships (especially with narcissists), the 6 fawning archetypes, and why grief is essential for breaking free. Meg’s new book 'Are You Mad at Me?' releases August 5th, and her wisdom is a balm for every empath seeking authentic self-trust. TIMESTAMPED OVERVIEW 00:00 Julie’s Personal Story & Podcast Mission 01:24 Introducing Guest Meg Josephson and Her New Book 02:03 Defining the Fawn Response as a Survival Mechanism 03:19 How Fawning Differs from Fight/Flight/Freeze 05:11 Empaths vs. Hypervigilance: Untangling Sensitivity 08:12 Shame as the Lowest Vibrational Emotion 10:56 Fawning in Narcissistic Relationships 15:50 Sponsor Message: Julie’s Programs & Offerings 18:17 The 6 Fawning Archetypes Explained 23:40 Childhood Roots of Emotional Caretaking 31:16 When Repair Fails: Grieving Unhealthy Relationships 35:39 Meg’s Journey with Parental Illness and Grief 45:47 Spiritual Insights: Life Reviews and Afterlife Messages 51:00 Closing Blessing and Listener Resources

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0:00.0

Hello friends, welcome to the Angels and Awakening podcast. I'm your host, Julie Jansis. If you love this

0:12.0

podcast, please be our angel. Ask a friend to listen, subscribe, rate us five stars, leave a positive

0:19.8

review, and share a screenshot of this podcast on your

0:23.3

Facebook or Instagram stories.

0:26.7

So my dad passed away in 2015.

0:30.8

We weren't talking and it took a month for his family to track me down.

0:35.7

Before I ever knew he was gone, I started hearing from him in heaven.

0:40.7

It consumed me. How is communication with the other side even possible? I left my corporate gig,

0:48.1

studied with spiritual teachers on every coast, and worked with my angels to figure out the answers. Today, my mission is teaching you

0:58.1

how to raise your vibration, shift your thoughts, trust your intuition, develop your unique

1:04.9

spiritual gifts, and connect with your loved ones and angels on the other side.

1:16.6

Friends, when you have these tools, life really does become heaven on earth.

1:21.1

Hello, beautiful souls.

1:23.7

Welcome back to the Angels and Awakening podcast.

1:26.1

I'm your host and author Julie Jansis.

1:28.4

And friends, you're going to have so much fun with today's guest. Her name is Meg Josephson. She is just a breath of fresh air and she's got

1:35.1

such positive energy. I know you're going to love her like I do. She's also on social media.

1:40.3

You've got a follow her over there because she's got great content that she's sharing.

1:43.6

Her new book that is just coming out, August 5th, is called Are You Mad at Me?

1:50.0

Now, if you're a people pleaser, you've been one in the past.

1:53.7

I think if you've been one, we always kind of struggle with it throughout life.

1:58.3

You're going to get so much from today's podcast.

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