Meghan. Hi, my name is Megan.

Megan comes to us with a concern about her roommate.

Well, my theory is that he might be a secitopoe.

He has zero empathy.

He likes to turn me on the stairs.

How long have you lived together?

Maybe five years now?

And have these signs been there since the beginning?

I mean, he's always been a, you know, poorly socially adapted creature.

And like, I reason to suspect my own my own judgment in what way like I've

dated a lot of terrible people who show some pathological qualities.

Are you afraid? I mean, he is smaller than me, so.

And he's big for a cat. Oh, can you hear him in the background?

He's meowling.

Megan, for a case like this, I think we'd have to make a house call.

Okay, I will endeavor to stay alive until then.

How do we figure out if Megan's cat, what's his name? His name is Pushkin.

How do we figure out if Pushkin is a psychopath? We needed advice and knew just who to call.

Hey.

Thanks for taking our case, John Ronson.

Oh, no, that's my pleasure, because it's something I've thought about a lot.

John Ronson wrote the book The Psychopath Test.

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