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Alive with Steve Burns

Are You Getting Grief All Wrong? with Megan Devine

Alive with Steve Burns

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture

5.0588 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

What if grief isn’t something to fix but something to understand? In this episode, psychotherapist Megan Devine breaks down the truth about loss, why we’re so uncomfortable with it, and how our culture gets grief completely wrong. From the myth of “moving on” to the pressure to feel better on a timeline, this conversation challenges everything we think we know about healing. Steve and Megan explore how trying to control or minimize grief often makes things worse. Megan offers a more honest, practical way to live with loss, support others, and stop judging ourselves for how we feel.  --------------------------------------------------------------------- ** if you like this episode, then check out these ** What is Dying with Nurse Julie https://youtu.be/DXMdWpFTNhY Preparing for the End with Alua Arthur https://youtu.be/vUh2qoNjhkQ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Alive with Steve Burns - Season One Episode 27 | Megan Devine Instagram: @alivewithsteveburns TikTok: @alivewithsteveburns --------------------------------------------------------------------- There are a thousand podcasts you can listen to. This one listens back. Alive with Steve Burns continues the conversation you began all those years ago. Back then it was letters and numbers and graham crackers. Now it’s death, sex, taxes, and all the big, messy questions of being alive. Why does money stress us out? Is the American dream dead? What’s the future of truth? Each week, a new guest drops by Steve’s window for a genuine and respectful dialogue between two people just trying to figure it out, together. Funny, tender, and just a little weird, this show invites you to sit down and think with Steve once again and wonder… what it really means to be Alive. --------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not alone. You are cared for. If you need someone to listen: National Suicide and Crisis Hotline: https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI Helpline: https://www.nami.org/nami-helpline/ Crisis Text Line: https://www.crisistextline.org/ Keywords: grief, loss, dealing with grief, coping with loss, grief support, grief advice, grief healing, stages of grief, grief recovery, emotional healing, mental health, trauma, bereavement, mourning, loss of a loved one, complicated grief, prolonged grief, grief myths, grief misconceptions, moving on from grief, grief and relationships, grief and life changes, personal growth, emotional resilience, psychology, therapy, Megan Devine, grief expert, understanding grief, living with loss, Steve Burns, Blues Clues Watch full episodes of Alive on YouTube. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.  If you haven’t yet, now is a great time to subscribe to Lemonada Premium. You’ll get ad-free episodes and bonus content from Steve. Just hit the 'subscribe' button on Apple Podcasts, or, for all other podcast apps head to lemonadapremium.com to subscribe.  Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors

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0:00.0

I don't even think it's fear of death.

0:07.7

I think it's a fear of goodbye.

0:08.8

I think it's a fear of grief.

0:10.0

I think it is being so broken open by losing people we love that we will deny that we will ever lose them.

0:20.4

Oh, my. Hey, hey, there you are here. I am so glad you are here. Welcome. Welcome to Alive. Have a seat. Okay. So, today I have another really pretty heavy question for you. Are you ready? Okay. Have you ever lost something or someone that you loved?

1:01.6

Yeah. Me too.

1:16.6

You know, let's have tea.

1:19.6

Tea.

1:20.6

It is a strange thing, isn't it?

1:26.6

Grief. It's another one of those deeply human, totally universal things that we are weirdly very ill-equipped to handle.

1:36.3

You know? And I suppose it feels inevitable that on a podcast where we spend so much time talking about what it means to be alive and talking

1:46.1

about death that we would eventually get to hear, to grief, what it is and what it isn't.

1:56.7

And why we are often so terrible at supporting each other through it.

2:02.9

And why I always feel like I'm doing it wrong.

2:08.0

Anyway, I just had the most meaningful and fascinating conversation about all of this.

2:13.8

And it wasn't a total bummer at all, I promise.

2:16.3

And I think you'll really, really

2:20.3

enjoy it. So check it out. I'll be here when you get back and let me know what you think.

2:32.3

Today's guest is Megan Devine.

2:34.4

Megan is a psychotherapist, writer, podcaster, and also one of the very clearest voices I think we have on grief.

2:42.3

Her first book, It's Okay That You're Not Okay.

2:45.7

I love this title, by the way, for reasons that don't even have to do with grief,

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