Are You Getting Grief All Wrong? with Megan Devine
Alive with Steve Burns
Lemonada Media
5.0 • 588 Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I don't even think it's fear of death. |
| 0:07.7 | I think it's a fear of goodbye. |
| 0:08.8 | I think it's a fear of grief. |
| 0:10.0 | I think it is being so broken open by losing people we love that we will deny that we will ever lose them. |
| 0:20.4 | Oh, my. Hey, hey, there you are here. I am so glad you are here. Welcome. Welcome to Alive. Have a seat. Okay. So, today I have another really pretty heavy question for you. Are you ready? Okay. Have you ever lost something or someone that you loved? |
| 1:01.6 | Yeah. Me too. |
| 1:16.6 | You know, let's have tea. |
| 1:19.6 | Tea. |
| 1:20.6 | It is a strange thing, isn't it? |
| 1:26.6 | Grief. It's another one of those deeply human, totally universal things that we are weirdly very ill-equipped to handle. |
| 1:36.3 | You know? And I suppose it feels inevitable that on a podcast where we spend so much time talking about what it means to be alive and talking |
| 1:46.1 | about death that we would eventually get to hear, to grief, what it is and what it isn't. |
| 1:56.7 | And why we are often so terrible at supporting each other through it. |
| 2:02.9 | And why I always feel like I'm doing it wrong. |
| 2:08.0 | Anyway, I just had the most meaningful and fascinating conversation about all of this. |
| 2:13.8 | And it wasn't a total bummer at all, I promise. |
| 2:16.3 | And I think you'll really, really |
| 2:20.3 | enjoy it. So check it out. I'll be here when you get back and let me know what you think. |
| 2:32.3 | Today's guest is Megan Devine. |
| 2:34.4 | Megan is a psychotherapist, writer, podcaster, and also one of the very clearest voices I think we have on grief. |
| 2:42.3 | Her first book, It's Okay That You're Not Okay. |
| 2:45.7 | I love this title, by the way, for reasons that don't even have to do with grief, |
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