Welcome to Getting Curious. I'm Jonathan Van Ness and every week I sit down for a 40-minute

conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious. On today's

episode, I'm joined by an iconic environmental activist and consumer advocate Aaron Brockovich,

where I ask her, are you getting every word of this?

Welcome to Getting Curious, this is Jonathan Van Ness. I'm really so excited because we have a guest.

I think I can kind of like one hand how many times I've had someone back to the podcast.

You are brilliant. You're a thought leader. You're someone who I've looked up to for years. So

welcome back to the podcast, Aaron Brockovich. Your new book is out, Superman's not coming.

And I just cannot wait to talk to you. I think we're talking just a little bit before we started

about this election and how we're fearing. And as we got into it, I said, stop, stop, stop,

because I want to keep this so fresh for the podcast. So I just thank you for coming. How have

you been? What's what's happened since we saw each other last for you?

Well, what's happened since we saw each other last? Well, I definitely have Superman's not coming

out. And I'm working on a pilot that ABC picked up for a show where we're getting there. So I

don't know how much I can or can't talk about. I'm like everybody else that just the hard stop that

came with COVID. And it's like every day's Groundhog's day. We were talking earlier about,

you know, oh my gosh, my brain hurts with all the technology. And I, it's been heard.

I feel the same frustration everyone does. Yeah. In my keynote, it's I've been saying the

past year. There's a shift coming. There's a shift coming. It's not like I was saying COVID

is coming, but you could feel something happening. And this moment has hit us. It's interesting that

Superman's not coming. It's coming out at this time because I think there is a wake-up moment

happening that I've been able to see on the ground and in the field for 20 years on environmental

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