I was having a conversation with somebody about guns, and I remember saying that, you know,

there are really valid reasons to have guns, especially if you live in areas where you don't have police nearby.

I mean, this is something you learn in Texas Texas because especially when people live out in the country,

you can't just go like to the corner and call 911.

And there's a lot of valid reasons for gun culture.

And she was just like, God, you are becoming a Republican.

And to me, it always felt like it was the moment

when I was introducing that their side wasn't as simple as they thought it was.

And so it felt like a shutdown.

Welcome to the unspeakable podcast.

I'm your host, Megan Down.

This week's guest is a returning guest to the podcast, Sarah Hepila. I'll introduce her properly in a moment. But first, a couple items of business. The first is that as of next week, this podcast will be on summer hiatus. As you may know, I've got several projects I'm trying to juggle and or

get off the ground and I felt like it would be a good idea to give this podcast a breather.

I promise it is not going anywhere and it's possible I may drop in at some point with a solo

episode if I find myself in a monologing

kind of mood.

But as it stands, the show will be off for the rest of this month and August and be back

around Labor Day.

The good news for you, at least if you crave the sound of my voice, is that my new podcast with

Sarah Hater, a special place in hell, is full steam ahead. If you have not checked it out yet,

it's a podcast where Sarah and I talk about various cultural issues, many of them related to

women, feminism, male, female dynamics, and the kinds of stuff

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