I tell people that I'm not a person where God opens the door and says, come this way and I go.

You know, when God tries to lead me in directions, I tend to be the person who says,

I'm not ready for that God. I'll get around to it eventually.

So then he opens a window and says, come on, do the window then.

I still don't go.

So he then picks me up and shoves me through the window with me kicking and screaming.

And that's kind of how I ended up working in foster care and adoption.

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So we had an interesting lunch today, didn't we?

It's really fun, wasn't it?

I thought it was so fun.

Why is that?

Because we have two guests with us today that are friends and have been friends for a while.

They've co-authored books together.

They've lived life together, celebrated each other, mourned with one another.

And they are amazing women that have remarkable stories.

Yeah, and I don't think our listeners always know we usually have lunch with our guests

before we come in here in the studio.

And partly to get to know one another.

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