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Happy New Year, all you Constantine's. This week we are revisiting an old episode.

Not something I do very often, but hear me out.

It is the holidays, and I need a break.

Is that not enough?

All right, well, here's the other thing.

I'm working on one of those stories that keeps getting bigger and bigger the longer I dig,

pun intended?

And not only do I need some more time to pull it all together,

...