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The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

Are we wrong about running back value?

The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

The Athletic

Football, Robert Mays, Football,, Sports, Nfl, Nfl Draft

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

The NFL Draft is right on our doorstep, and it's looking likely that some team is going to make Jeremiyah Love a top-five pick. That's right, the running back value discussion is back. But never fear, this is the good version of it. Robert Mays and Bill Barnwell trot out the old chestnut in a new way on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


Host: Robert Mays

Guest: Bill Barnwell

Executive Producer: Michael Beller

Senior Producer: Katy Duffy

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Athletic Football Show.

0:01.9

I'm Robert Mays.

0:03.1

Bill Barnwell is joining us today for a discussion that him and I have been kicking around for the last couple weeks.

0:08.4

As more and more people have dug into the conversation about running back value tied to whether Jeremiah Love could go in the top five of this year's draft, I wanted to spend some time with Barnwell today just revisiting essentially all the arguments

0:22.6

on both sides of this debate. We have so many kind of quick can things we go to when it comes

0:29.6

to why you can't draft a running back in the top five. Oh, the surplus value just isn't in your

0:34.3

favor. The opportunity cost you get from not drafting another premium position in that spot, running backs are just so much more dependent on what's going on around them

0:42.6

than other positions are. And then on the other side of it, we have, well, running backs are more

0:47.8

important now than they were 10 years ago because of the way the league has changed. The running

0:51.3

game is much more central to successful offenses.

0:54.7

There's more light boxes. Teams are playing defense differently. So, yeah, it's possible to draft

0:58.7

the running back that high. Running backs are more smoothly folded into the passing game now.

1:02.5

So what we wanted to do today is just kind of take all of those arguments on either side of this

1:07.1

discussion, debate, however you want to put it, and just interrogate them a little bit is this

1:12.4

true like do we feel like you can get running backs later on based on the numbers and based on history

1:17.5

to the point that you shouldn't draft one in the top five has the has the running game changed enough

1:22.5

for us to value running backs in such a way that you can draft a running back forth overall and feel

1:28.4

good about it, especially in a draft like this.

1:30.9

So what we wanted to do with this is just take an open-minded approach to this topic in a way

1:37.7

that we don't always.

1:39.5

I think people are kind of entrenched in how they feel about this.

1:42.8

And I'll say that I've been guilty about that.

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