Hello, I'm Gary Stearman. Welcome to Prophecy Watchers. We have, of course, with us today, Mondo

Gonzalez, but in addition to that, we have a very special guest. And Mondo, you can introduce

our guest. Yes, we are going to be discussing some fun topics today, Ezekiel 38, 39, as well as Jeremiah 49 with Dr. Mike Spalding. So you've written a lot about this, talked a lot about it, and so it's good to have you here. Thank you, Mondo. It's a pleasure to be here. Yeah, it's going to be good. Gary, with all the things that are happening, we thought since Mike was here for some other interviews, that it would be good to sit around

with all the wisdom right here and talk about this.

What's your immediate response to all that's happening in the Middle East right now?

You got any quick thoughts before we dive deep?

Well, I think my thoughts are just like everybody else's thoughts.

Somewhere in the back of your mind, you've got Ezekiel 38, the first three or four verses,

and you've been reading about this for years, and you've been thinking about it and saying,

no, no, no, I don't think that's it at all.

And then you come back to it once again, and what you have in Ezekiel 38 is what appears

to be a narrative for a Middle East war.

And there are a lot of details that we have, and we've all tried for years, and I know

you have tried for years, just like the rest of us, to place this in context.

How are we doing?

You know, we're doing our best to try to place things in context because it's, and I think the one thing I appreciate about both of you guys is that, is that we're not here to sensationalize anything.

We're not here to try to make something fit that doesn't.

The scripture says what it says, and we anticipate it being a future event,

but we're not here necessarily to do newspaper exchegesis,

which is often the case of people who get accused of.

But I interacted with somebody recently through social media and they were making

the strong claim that Ezekiel 38 and 39 has often the case, has been fulfilled in history.

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