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Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov

Are We Still Fighting the "Axis of Evil" in Iran? (ft. David Frum)

Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov

Prof G Media / Vox Media

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

As more and more U.S. military members are shipping to the region, is Trump trying to bluff his way into a full-blown ground invasion of Iran? Jessica Tarlov is joined by David Frum to discuss. They talk about the danger of Trump’s particular brand of “messianism,” along with an administration staffed with “fanatics and crooks.” Frum, who was a speechwriter for President George W. Bush, recalls the post-9/11 “axis of evil” speech — which included the Iranian regime even 24 years ago. They discuss the role of JD Vance, who is both signaling his alleged skepticism about the war in Iran, and being identified as a possible negotiator with the regime there. Then, they discuss Trump’s morality and egoism, how it has infected every aspect of his presidency – including this war. Finally, David and Jessica talk about the surprising news that the Treasury intends to issue paper currency featuring Trump’s signature — which would end a 165-year tradition in the U.S. of no president’s signature appearing on legal tender. Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov Follow Prof G, @profgalloway Follow Raging Moderates, @RagingModeratesPod Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@RagingModerates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I know Donald Trump means it as a bluff.

1:01.8

He thinks that the Iranians will be scared,

1:03.6

but they know as well as everybody else

1:05.7

how hazardous it will be to use ground troops.

1:08.1

Once ground troops are deployed,

1:09.9

we're into a very protracted war that

1:11.8

there's no way to imagine ending. And I don't think there's any appetite to invade and occupy Iran.

1:18.0

They will have these limited operations that put the initiative in the Iranian hands. And the United

1:22.1

States should not be fighting a total war against Iran in a world where Russia and China are more

1:25.9

important problems. I mean, I would like to talk access of evil with you and talk about the lessons that we and you especially haven't been part of the Bush administration, you know, gleaned from that.

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