Well, we are having fun already. Welcome to the Bill Bennett show. Some of the

pre-show conversations were probably the interesting. I don't know who you would

get. Well, you get maybe getting trouble too. Yeah. Yeah. People who are related.

Yeah, we're related. Two by marriage. Yeah. Well, you get well. Well, me. I would

speak for yourself. You would not. Never have any disagreements at all. As the lady said,

Mrs. Bennett, I think about our fifth year of marriage about 36 years ago.

Mm-hmm. It must be wonderful to be married to the author of the book of virtues

on, but he's just a model of virtue around that. I would assume. I said, which say,

which say? He says, oh, yes, he is. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, what? Sorry for all

of this stuff that wasn't virtuous. In general. Yeah. The last four years. Correct.

Anyway, we'll have a very thoughtful conversation about things that matter because we're going

to have John Hinderocker. Right. Who's kind of a commentator, a large for us. He's

one of the founders of Powerline, which is a great, great blog. Great blog. That's what

it is a blog. Yes. And he's the president of the Center of the American Experiment.

I'm going to ask him right off. How's the American Experiment doing right now? I'll be

excited to take 20 minutes later. We'll stop it. Yeah. Right. You're listening to the

Bill Bennett show. All right. So let's jump into it. All right. The Center for the American

Experiment. John, we like perspective from you or a smart guy. How is the American Experiment

going these days? Well, Bill, in my opinion, it's niff and tuck. We're living in a strange world

where our so-called elites, almost to a person. Bill, I mean, Glenn Reynolds calls it a

monoculture. And it's so true. These crazy ideas that started out in the universities, so I don't

know, 20 or 30 years ago, have now migrated. Generally, we call this ideology wokeism. It's the

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