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Thinking in Public with Albert Mohler

Are We Really Beyond Religion Now? — A Conversation with Phil Zuckerman

Thinking in Public with Albert Mohler

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

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🗓️ 1 November 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This is Thinking in Public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about frontline theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them.
In this edition of the popular podcast series “Thinking in Public,” Albert Mohler speaks with professor of sociology and secular studies at Pitzer College, Dr. Phil Zuckerman. They discuss Dr. Zuckerman’s recent book, “Beyond Doubt: The Secularization of Society,” and the history and rising influence of secularism across the globe.
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This is Thinking in Public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about

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frontline theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them.

0:09.0

I'm Albert Miller, your host and president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky.

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Phil Zuckerman is a professor of sociology and secular studies at Pittster College.

0:19.5

After earning his PhD in sociology from the University of Oregon, Professor

0:23.2

Zuckerman has had a distinguished scholarly and teaching career

0:26.5

an innovator in the academic world.

0:29.6

He has served as a guest professor at the University of our house Denmark, as well as an affiliated faculty member for the Claremont Graduate School since 2002.

0:37.5

He also founded the first secular studies department in the nation at Pittsar College in 2011. He's the author of numerous books

0:45.3

and academic articles but it is his most recent book beyond doubt the

0:49.3

secularization of society that is the topic of our conversation today.

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Professor Zuckerman, welcome to thinking in public.

0:57.0

Oh, thank you for having me.

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My pleasure.

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I should say welcome back.

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In 2015, we had a conversation about your book living the secular life so this is round two so to speak

1:08.2

I'm so glad you had me back I guess I did something all right it I wasn't too offensive I guess.

1:13.0

No, you're dealing with big questions and that's what we like to, that's what we like to grapple with.

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In your new book co-authored with Isabella Kostelstrand and Ryan Craigen, you basically take on one of the biggest arguments of the last century

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and that comes down to whether or not secularization is inevitable and whether or not the United States is now following

1:35.0

following in a secularizing trend.

1:36.0

We both have a lot at stake in this argument,

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