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The President’s Inbox

Are We Ready? | AI, Espionage, and Influence, With Jessica Brandt

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.4734 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Jessica Brandt, senior fellow for technology and national security at the Council, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping cyber operations, influence campaigns, and intelligence gathering, and what those changes mean for U.S. national security.   This is the fourth episode in a special series from The President’s Inbox, bringing you conversations with Washington insiders to assess whether the United States is ready for a new, more dangerous world.   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/are-we-ready-ai-espionage-and-influence-jessica-brandt

Transcript

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0:00.0

The world has turned dangerous.

0:04.0

Is the United States prepared to meet the new challenges it might face?

0:08.0

In this special series from the President's inbox, we're bringing you conversations with Washington insiders

0:13.0

to assess whether the United States is ready for a new, more dangerous world.

0:20.0

Great partnership. more dangerous world.

0:29.7

Great power competition is no longer solely a geographical contest for the control of borders in sea lanes.

0:30.9

The rise of the internet created invisible networks that connect the modern world and have

0:35.5

given countries the ability to penetrate and disrupt

0:38.3

their adversaries, economies, and societies without firing a shot.

0:42.3

How grave is the threat the United States is facing right now in terms of a cyber attack?

0:47.3

It's not only a grave threat, but it's an unpredictable one.

0:50.3

A report from Microsoft finds Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea have increased the use of

0:55.8

AI to create fake content, spread disinformation, and launch cyber attacks.

1:00.2

PRC hackers are targeting our critical infrastructure.

1:04.0

Artificial intelligence is now intensifying that threat.

1:07.0

China, Russia, and other countries are using AI to probe U.S. systems, steal data, compromise

1:12.7

infrastructure systems, and manipulate information flows at unprecedented scale.

1:17.7

The United States, in turn, is scrambling to protect its power grids and financial networks

1:22.2

from cyber attacks and malware while seeking to blunt digital propaganda designed to divide and deceive the public.

1:28.9

The question remains, however, whether Washington is acting fast enough with the right tools

1:33.6

to blunt the threat that the weaponization of AI poses to America's security, prosperity, and democracy.

1:41.5

From the Council on Foreign Relations, welcome to the President's Inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay.

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