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This is Deep State Radio.

This is Deep State Radio.

Coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of

Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to another episode of Deep State Radio. I am David Rothcuff, I am your host host and I am on a highway somewhere between Detroit, Michigan and Ipsalante, Michigan, because I will go to every extent to try to find the true stories for you out there in

Nurdland. In Washington, D.C. we have Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University and

we also have Joseph and Cieoney of the Plow shares fund and somewhere on the

northern part well California I guess Jeff where are you are you in California right now? I am in Monterey gazing at the ocean out my office window.

Oh there he goes so soon into the podcast he starts with the ocean.

Yeah he starts to torture us with the ocean

and we have Jeffrey Lewis our author of the 2020 Commission

a book about how things you know could go wrong with a country like well North Korea and

that's exactly what we're here to talk about today the president of the United States as we record this is on a

plane heading off to place he didn't want to go very much when he was a young man

Vietnam to meet with Kim Jong-un to talk about a deal.

And of course, the president wants to deal very badly

and Kim Jong-un, you know,

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