Are We Heading to a National Divorce?
Making the Argument with Nick Freitas
Nick Freitas
4.9 • 993 Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
Right now, America is more divided than ever - with Philadelphia's Sheriff Rochelle Bilal warning ICE agents, “you don't want this smoke” and calling them 'fake law enforcement’. Democrats are engaged in a borderline insurrection against the Federal government over ICE. Today, we'll examine left-wing calls for direct obstruction against ICE, the Insurrection Act as a federal response tool, maps of past unrest and red/blue county divides, historical examples of state resistance, conditions that could catalyze broader collaboration or tipping points, and answer key questions.
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00:00:00 Are We Heading for a National Divorce?
00:02:30 Democrats are Nullifying Federal Law to Protect Illegal Migrants
00:16:57 Dismantling Left-wing Arguments Against ICE
00:30:58 Democrats Claim ICE is “Invading” Blue States after Supporting Mass Migration
00:37:39 Are Democrats Engaged in an Insurrection?
00:43:35 The Insurrection Act and Federal Authority
00:56:48 Leftist Moralizing No Longer Works
01:02:00 The Three Options Going Forward
01:11:24 What Would National Divorce Look Like?
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | America seems to be more divided than ever, and that's become a cliche. |
| 0:04.0 | I mean, let's face it. |
| 0:05.0 | Everyone has been saying this for a while now, but here's how you know it might actually be true at this point, |
| 0:11.0 | and that is because certain localities and certain states seem like they are really gearing up to fight this time, |
| 0:17.0 | and I mean fighting directly against the federal government. |
| 0:20.0 | We have several clips |
| 0:22.0 | that we're going to show you today of prominent members of the Democratic Party, not people in their |
| 0:26.2 | mother's basement, talking about resisting or pushing back against ICE. Now, they're trying to be |
| 0:31.3 | careful in their language, which is to say that they're kind of hinting an insurrection, |
| 0:35.7 | well, always put it in some sort of caveat |
| 0:38.0 | that would prevent anybody from accusing them of the thing they seem to be hinting at. But |
| 0:42.9 | it's there and it's obvious. So we're going to look at that. We're going to look at things like |
| 0:47.1 | the Insurrection Act. At what point does Donald Trump have constitutional authority to potentially |
| 0:52.7 | organize the military in order to go in and put |
| 0:55.1 | down insurrections. We're also going to ask this very, very important question, and that is, |
| 1:00.1 | have Americans just had enough of each other? Is there any pathway to us peacefully saying, |
| 1:07.5 | we don't want to do this anymore? Well, there's three options that we're going to look at for what would happen if |
| 1:14.8 | Americans decided that they're just kind of done and they're ready to fight one another |
| 1:19.9 | or ready to separate peacefully. |
| 1:22.2 | And we will discuss what those three options look like and some of the practical |
| 1:25.7 | questions that need to be asked. |
| 1:27.6 | All of that coming up on this episode of making the argument. I'm your host, Nick Freitas. I want to give a special think out to Mando. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. If you are a, look, I'm going to say right now, especially if you're a dude, right? If you're a guy and you're married, I always like to make this joke that if I want to, if I want to romance my wife, I might get |
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