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The Owen Jones Podcast

Are We Heading For An Economic CRASH?

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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0:00.0

Are we heading for a major economic slump?

0:02.8

Now, the latest economic news is bad, if I'm honest.

0:07.1

UK wage growth is now non-existent, actually.

0:11.6

We've already gone through the longest squeeze in wages ever recorded in modern history

0:16.5

in the period of the last 20 years overall.

0:19.2

The unemployment rate rise is also there. In the US,

0:24.5

inflation, things are going upwards in terms of prices all over again. Obviously, we already

0:30.0

had massive inflationary pressures, which caused huge political consequences. This is all partly

0:36.1

linked, of course, to the Iran War, but the global economy

0:40.4

was not in a good place anyway, with huge red lights flashing. I'm really delighted to be

0:45.3

joined by James Meadray, a brilliant economist, to work out, are we heading for a slump? How bad

0:49.7

is this? Where are things potentially going? Hello, how you doing? Hello, not too bad other than

0:55.7

that very bleak introduction. That was not the, the cheeriest way to start a discussion, was it,

1:00.6

Owen? No, we've got to work with what we got, though. I should also say, by the way,

1:04.0

check out Macrodose, a brilliant economics podcast, which James presents. Yeah, it's bleak. How bad is it? Let's look at Britain.

1:14.4

How bad is the latest data? Well, it's one of those ones where it's already quite bad and

1:19.9

it sort of gets worse a bit. The rise is unemployment, it's being built as unexpected. It probably

1:25.2

shouldn't have been that unexpected because what you can start to

1:28.6

see happening now is, I mean, the starting point for this is probably the Iran War, and in particular,

1:33.5

the Strait-Hormuz getting blockaded, through which, as everyone now knows, you know, 20%, 25% the

1:39.1

world's oil and gas flows, importantly also about a third of the world's fertilizer, which is worth bearing in mind

1:45.4

for what's going to happen in the future. That started to force up prices, which already,

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