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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Are We Headed For War With Iran?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2019

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Is the United States barreling toward war with Iran? Op-Ed columnist Bret Stephens joins his colleagues to discuss the recent uptick in tensions between Washington and Tehran — and what can be done about them. Then, what are religious conservatives really fighting about? The columnists discuss the Sohrab Ahmari vs. David French debate over tactics, values and goals that’s roiling the right-wing intelligentsia. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.4

I'm Ross Douthett.

0:02.6

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:04.0

And this is the argument.

0:06.6

This week, is President Trump taking us toward war with Iran?

0:10.2

I can't think of any other country that commits what appear to be acts of piracy on the

0:16.3

high seats.

0:17.6

Then, have conservatives given up on liberal democracy?

0:21.7

He's reacting to the sense that in the new liberal culture, you get drag queen story hours

0:27.0

and if you're an evangelical florist who doesn't want to do flowers for same-sex wedding,

0:31.6

you get fined and driven out of business.

0:33.6

And finally, a recommendation.

0:35.3

OK, so let me tell you why this was ruined my life.

0:42.6

Tensions between the United States and Iran are rising.

0:45.2

The situation feels dangerous and unstable.

0:47.8

The Trump administration has revoked the Obama administration's deal with Iran that was meant

0:51.8

to keep that country from acquiring nuclear weapons.

0:55.0

Iran has instead imposed tough new sanctions on Iran with the goal of weakening the regime

0:59.0

there and getting it to stop its aggressive behavior across the Middle East.

1:03.8

The sanctions are clearly hurting Iran's economy and the government there has been

1:07.0

getting more aggressive in response, apparently attacking two commercial ships and restarting

1:11.6

its nuclear production.

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