It's the brilliant layer Show on WNYC.

Good morning again everyone.

With us now Mark Tracy, who covers arts and culture

and also the American Jewish community

for the New York Times.

He previously covered contemporary Jewish life and culture for the Jewish News Organization

tablet and he co-edited the 2012 book Jewish Jocks, a collection of 50 original essays about Jewish sports figures.

In the last few months in this post-October 7th world, Mark has been writing periodically about the dynamics within American Jewish families

around how to think about the war in Gaza and how to think about Israel generally

at this moment in history.

Just last week he had an article called

navigating Israel's war when one spouse is Jewish and one is not.

That's in the context of so many intermarriages involving Jewish and non-Jewish spouses for

generations now in the United States. So many mixed couples. He had one called

is Israel part of what it means to be Jewish exploring that from various modern day

perspectives and he had one called Jewish American families confront a

generational divide over Israel.

We'll talk about that one the most now

and invite Jewish listeners of different generations

to call in and have part of what may be

a difficult conversation that you're having in your family.

In that article, Mark notes that Gen Z and young millennial Jews often see Israel as an occupying power,

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