I'm John Robbins, and joining me on How Do You Coke this week is the musician Justin Hawkins.

How big a meatloaf fan, I.

A big meatloaf fan.

I remember he came over to me, grabbed me, and he squeezed me, and he said to me,

I want you to think of me as your father.

And he had like sausage on his breath.

So every time I smell sage and pork, I think of meatloat.

So that's how do you cope with me, John Robbins. Find us wherever you get your podcasts.

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