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Are Trump's tariffs legal?

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4.6 β€’ 29.8K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

When President Trump announced his sweeping new tariffs this year, many trade law experts were startled. Typically, presidents don't have the authority to impose broad tariffs with a snap of their fingers.

But Trump's advisors have an unusual new legal theory. They say that as long as there's a national emergency of some kind, Trump may be able to create whatever tariffs he wants. This is a creative interpretation of a 1977 law called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA. To justify his latest tariffs, the president declared national emergencies involving illegal immigration, the fentanyl crisis, and the trade deficit.

But no president has ever tried to use the law in this way.

Now, the fate of Trump's tariffs β€” and the creative legal theory behind them β€” lies with the courts. About a dozen lawsuits have challenged his tariffs, claiming that they are unlawful and possibly even unconstitutional. And some judges have started to agree.

On today's show: What are the President's powers when it comes to tariffs? Where do they come from? What are their limits? And, what will be the fate of Trump's tariffs?

For more on Trump's tariffs:
- The 145% tariff already did its damage
- Do trade deficits matter?
- What "Made in China" actually means

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and she loves everything about it.

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The mountains, prairies, the plains.

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The smell.

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You can smell the air.

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You can smell the flowers. The wildlife. Occasionally a air. You can smell the flowers.

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The wildlife.

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Occasionally a little fox will run across the road.

0:41.7

Susan grew up here on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation.

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She's a member of the Blackfeet Nation.

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From her back porch, she's got the rocky mountains to the west and the Great Plains to the east.

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And to the north is Canada.

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The border is a short drive away.

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Well, it's just a imaginary line, right?

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Can't even see it?

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No, you don't need to see it.

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