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The Liturgists Podcast

Are Those People the Problem?

The Liturgists Podcast

The Liturgists

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.83.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Scapegoating is a common human response to difficult situations. We have a tendency to point to another group of people as the source of our world's woes. But is the solution simply saying "they" are the problem? What happens when "they" scapegoat "us" in response? In this episode, Peter Rollins and Michael Gungor talk about how we can engage in productive conflict in a world where technological advancements have only highlighted how much we disagree, and how we can see ourselves through other people's eyes to overcome social challenges together. Peter Rollins is a philosopher, storyteller, producer, public speaker, and author of numerous books, including Insurrection, The Idolatry of God, and The Divine Magician. Peter earned his PhD in Post-Structural Thought from Queens University. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Our world is built with stories.

0:04.0

Sometimes these stories cause suffering by pulling us apart from ourselves and each other.

0:10.0

The liturgist podcast helps people love more and suffer less by pulling apart the stories that pull us apart.

0:16.0

Today's story, those people are the problem.

0:20.0

I am so excited for this one.

0:28.0

Pete Rollins is in the house.

0:32.0

I feel like this is one of those stories that is so fundamental.

0:38.0

We talk about that in this season, we're pulling apart the stories that pull us apart.

0:42.0

This story of our problems being centralized in somebody out there, some big other is so foundational and fundamental to stories that pull us apart from each other.

0:58.0

I've been super excited about talking about this with you, Pete.

1:02.0

Thank you. We just knew we were going to work on this.

1:04.0

We just jumped straight in.

1:06.0

We're not trying to waste.

1:08.0

I feel like I'm strapped in.

1:10.0

We've gone from 0 to 60.

1:12.0

I literally sat down and you went into radio voice mood.

1:16.0

That sexy voice just started to come out.

1:18.0

That's sexy?

1:20.0

Yeah.

1:22.0

You don't sound like that in real life.

1:24.0

That's you.

1:26.0

That's the real space.

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