Are these tax cuts for real?
Radical with Amol Rajan
BBC
4.5 • 919 Ratings
🗓️ 23 November 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Who’s right? Are these really the biggest tax cuts since the 1980s? Or are we paying more tax than ever? Or might both things be true? Amol and Nick look through the headlines of a complicated Autumn Statement and ask whether these tax cuts are real. They talk to former chancellor Ken Clarke about economic credibility, and they examine the tax-and-spend dividing lines between Labour and the Conservatives ahead of the election. Plus they look to Europe where the controversial, inflammatory and populist politician Geert Wilders is heading to victory in the Dutch general election. The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson, both presenters of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the UK’s most influential radio news programme. Amol was the BBC’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the BBC’s political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV’s political editor. The producers are Tom Smithard and Rufus Gray. The editors are Jonathan Aspinwall and Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:06.7 | Oh, look at this. Good news, Nick. |
| 0:08.4 | Look, it says on the front of the Times here, |
| 0:10.0 | Hunt eases tax burden. |
| 0:12.2 | Really? Here on the FT, tax burden surges despite Hunt cuts. |
| 0:17.7 | Well, hang on a second. |
| 0:18.6 | Look, I've got the mail here. |
| 0:20.3 | It says, biggest tax cuts |
| 0:21.6 | since the 1980s. |
| 0:22.7 | Let's hope it's just the start. |
| 0:24.6 | Hurrah for that. |
| 0:25.5 | But the mirror, do they take us all for fools? Hang on one a second. What's going on? They can't all be right, can they? You know what's really annoying? is they actually can all be right. |
| 0:34.6 | We could be paying more taxes than ever before, |
| 0:37.3 | but the Chancellor might have cut taxes more than ever before. |
| 0:41.4 | Still, can all be right. We could be paying more taxes than ever before. But the Chancellor might have |
| 0:38.7 | cut taxes more than ever before, still leaving us paying more than ever before. |
| 0:44.3 | It's a complicated autumn statement, but don't forget the big picture. That's what we do on |
| 0:48.5 | this podcast. This is a country, this is an economy with high spending, high tax, high debt, |
| 0:53.7 | low growth and pretty |
| 0:55.4 | stagnant living standards for the best part of a decade. |
| 0:58.5 | So are these tax cuts for real? |
| 1:01.0 | Let's do it. It's a mole in the Today Podcast studio. |
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