Let's go to Kelly in Los Angeles. Hi, Kelly. Welcome. Hi, Patrick. So I have a 10-year-old daughter who is just asking me, Mommy, if there are different places in heaven, if there are different levels, does that mean I'll never get to meet St. Therese? And that sounds awful. I don't want to go to heaven. I don't want to be separated in certain levels.

What does that mean, Mommy? And I said, let me call Patrick Madrid. Well, thank you for the,

thanks for the confidence. I think we should understand it in this sense. Yes, there are different

levels in the sense that in this life, now we're talking about human beings for the moment,

because we know that there are different levels, there are different choirs of angels, for example. So we human beings,

in a similar way to the angels, we have a certain pecking order, and it has to do with our capacity

for God's grace. So think of it this way. Let's say that in your life, you loving Jesus and being a disciple of Jesus and everything that goes into it

that you have you have achieved or God has helped you by His grace achieve a capacity for God's grace and we're using it in kind of physicalistic terms

it's really not physicalistic it's not a volume or capacity but this will help us kind of think about it. It's really not physicalistic. It's not a volume or capacity,

but this will help us kind of think about it. Let's say that your capacity to contain God's grace,

as St. Paul says in Romans, it's the love of God, the grace of God is poured out into our heart.

So he uses this language of flowing liquid. God is pouring out his grace into our heart. So if that

helps you, think of it that way. Let's say that in the Olympic swimming pool is how much you

are able to contain God's grace. So everyone in heaven is going to be topped off with the maximum

grace that God can give that person, and it will

depend upon his or her capacity to receive it. So if you have an Olympic swimming pool,

and it's filled to the brim with God's grace, again, using an analogy, it's not perfect,

but it's helpful, then you will have maximum, you will enjoy God to the maximum possible.

The Blessed Virgin Mary, by comparison, might have the capacity of the Pacific Ocean, you see.

So she will not be more full with God in terms of the extent to which she has God's grace in her

any more so than you, but her capacity to

experience God will be far greater than yours. Now, I may have a Dixie Cup. So when I'm in heaven,

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