Are there lives ruined?

One more thing.

Armstrong and Getty.

One more thing.

So we're talking a lot about the biggest college admission scandal in history, which it is.

And we know one person, at least.

We know one particular person who got caught in this.

I haven't seen the complete list, but yeah, one so far.

We know one person pretty well that they fake their kids' sports profile up to get into a big university.

Yep.

And this is a person that has been in the community forever.

Family has been in the community forever.

I assume they run in the sort of circles that they're in.

People who go to those kind of schools and have a lot of money.

Yep.

What is your life like now, do you think?

I mean, is it a, that just seems like that'd be a, you can't even

hardly show your face, you wouldn't feel like showing your face. I don't know. I mean, do you just

show up to the country club and hope nobody says anything or? Or Jack, again, you're showing your

popper roots. Everybody in that level knows what everybody in that level does. It's incredible. It's like Martha

Stewart. Her reaction was, are you kidding? You're arresting me? Everybody does this.

See, that was kind of what I was wondering. I would think in my circle, if I got out it as

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