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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Are the U.S. and Europe better off breaking up?

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4678 Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

As the NATO summit is underway, geopolitical questions center on Iran and Ukraine, as well as other conflict zones.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From WNYC, I'm Brian Laird.

0:07.5

This is my daily politics podcast.

0:10.4

It's Thursday, July 9th.

0:14.4

So the way the NATO summit ended in Turkey yesterday between President Trump and European leaders,

0:20.2

maybe you could hear it one of two ways,

0:21.7

as a kind of new love affair or maybe the beginning of an amicable divorce.

0:27.7

President Trump at a closing news conference made it sound like after all the harsh things he's had to say

0:32.6

about the U.S.'s European allies, they're weak, NATO is obsolete. They're ripping off the United States by not

0:38.1

funding their own militaries enough, by climate policy. They're cowards or disloyal for not joining

0:43.9

the war with Iran. You've heard that one recently. Despite all that, at the end of this week's summit,

0:49.6

Trump said, love was in the air. Lots of love, much of it directed toward him.

0:56.0

They liked the job I'm doing. They said, we love, sir, we love you.

1:00.9

He's a grown people saying that. Isn't that nice? Maybe, I don't know, maybe they're trying

1:04.8

to get to me. And in a way they did, because there was tremendous unity in that room.

1:12.1

Trump before leaving Turkey yesterday, and here's Mark Ruta, if you think Trump is off on his own private island with that,

1:20.5

NATO Secretary General Mark Ruda yesterday basically saying, hey, Mr. Trump, you were right about us ripping you off. Thank you for that.

1:30.9

President Trump has been able to finally get done what since Eisenhower American presidents

1:37.1

tried to do, which was to equalize defense spending between Europe and the United States.

1:42.2

It is now happening.

1:43.7

We'll hear another clip of the NATO Secretary General

1:46.4

in the context of the Iran War starting up again,

1:49.8

but is less European dependence on the U.S. military

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