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Are the Rich Preparing for Civilisational Collapse? With Evan Osnos

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

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4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, award-winning journalist Evan Osnos joins Carl Miller to discuss the lives of the Ultrarich and themes from his new book The Haves and the Have Yachts. Together, they explore the secretive world of the ultra-wealthy, the symbolism of superyachts, and what extreme luxury reveals about inequality, power, and the future of capitalism. ---  If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:56.9

Welcome to Intelligence Squared where great minds meet.

1:00.0

I'm head of programming, Connor Boyle.

1:02.4

Society has always been obsessed with the lives of the wealthiest few,

1:05.7

and the recent success of shows like Succession or The White Lotus

1:09.1

show that it's only becoming more pronounced

1:11.3

in an age of increasing inequality. But who are America's oligarchs and how do they operate?

1:17.3

In this episode, we're joined by returning guest and award-winning journalist Evan Osnos

1:21.7

to explore the world of America's new ultra-rich. From private bunkers and super yachts to lavish parties for teenagers,

1:29.1

Osnoss unpacked how the ultra-rich are redefining power and what that means for the rest of us.

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