Are the Lethal U.S. Strikes on Venezuelan Boats Legal?
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 17 September 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Brian Lair Show on WNYC. I'm Bridget Bergen, sitting in for Brian today. Earlier this month, |
| 0:17.4 | President Trump went public with dramatic video, a U.S. strike blowing up a boat in the |
| 0:22.9 | Caribbean. He said the people on board were Venezuelan narco-terrorists and claimed the operation |
| 0:28.4 | saved American lives. He did not provide the details, like who those 11 people actually |
| 0:34.7 | were, what evidence tied them to drugs or crime, or what legal |
| 0:38.8 | authority he was relying on. This strike didn't take place in a declared war zone. It wasn't cleared |
| 0:44.8 | with Congress, and it comes at a time when the administration has been casting violent criminals |
| 0:49.4 | in Latin America as the next front in what it calls a global war on terror. On Monday, the U.S. military |
| 0:56.3 | struck a second boat, killing three more people. So what does international law say about |
| 1:01.7 | sinking a vessel in international waters? How much latitude does a U.S. President have to take |
| 1:07.5 | this kind of action, and what precedent might it said if other countries follow suit? |
| 1:12.9 | Joining us is Brian Funukin, senior advisor at the International Crisis Group and a non-resident senior |
| 1:18.5 | fellow at NYU Laws Reese Center on Law and Security. He's a national security lawyer who's been |
| 1:24.5 | studying U.S. uses of force overseas for years. Hey, Brian, welcome |
| 1:29.5 | to WNYC. Good morning. Pleasure to join you. And listeners, we'd like to hear from you. Should the U.S. |
| 1:36.5 | military be targeting suspected drug traffickers overseas? Or is that an overreach that risks |
| 1:42.1 | drawing us into new conflicts? The number 212-433 W-N-YC, that's 212-433-9692, you can call or text. |
| 1:52.9 | Brian, for people who haven't been following this as closely, can you walk us through what the administration says happened with these strikes? |
| 2:00.8 | So the administration has documented at least two strikes somewhere in the Caribbean. |
| 2:07.6 | The first occurred on September 2nd, allegedly in water beyond the territorial sea of any state, |
| 2:16.8 | against a vessel that had 11 people in it. |
| 2:20.2 | The administration, President Trump, showed video of that. |
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