Are the Conservatives ungovernable?
Coffee House Shots
The Spectator
4.4 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2022
⏱️ 16 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This episode is sponsored by Canacor Genuity Wealth Management, experienced wealth planners |
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| 0:18.0 | Hello and welcome to this special Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots. |
| 0:22.0 | I'm James Hill and I'm joined today by Katie Bulls and James Forsyth to ask the key question |
| 0:27.0 | of the Conservative Party now ungovernable. |
| 0:29.0 | And to start off by looking at the events of Wednesday night, the failed whipping operation |
| 0:34.0 | on the fracking vote, and James just talked us through what we saw then and the real problems |
| 0:39.0 | now of within the Conservative Party of people basically not being able to obey the party line. |
| 0:44.0 | So I think there are remarkable things. |
| 0:45.0 | You look at what actually ultimately ended up costing Liz Tross the job. |
| 0:49.0 | You're obviously the big things that are unwrapping in the mini budget. |
| 0:52.0 | But on Wednesday she had PMQ, so everyone said, oh, what is she going to be able to get through that? |
| 0:56.0 | Then she had our home secretary resign, she got through that. |
| 0:59.0 | But ultimately, what did for her was the dispute over the whipping arrangements in a vote on fracking |
| 1:05.0 | and the question of whether the chief whip had resigned or not. |
| 1:07.0 | I mean, it's revealing because it tells you the sort of challenge in terms of leading the Tory party |
| 1:13.0 | because the problem essentially there was that Labour very cleverly put down its opposition database |
| 1:19.0 | and you were trying to then free-line whip Tory MPs to vote for something that wasn't in line with the Tory manifesto. |
| 1:25.0 | You'd have government then added an amendment to it, which essentially rendered the government's policy |
| 1:30.0 | because it was fracking but with local consent. |
| 1:32.0 | And it defined local consent in such a way that there was nowhere in England for local consent. |
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