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🗓️ 18 September 2024
⏱️ 30 minutes
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The attacks on Hezbollah operatives were as audacious as they were incredible. Yesterday, targeting four thousand potential terrorists remotely through their pagers. And further attacks today using handheld radios.
But when the dust has settled, how will the world view this move? Was it justifiable? Or a breach of international law? What are the ethics of targeting so large a group? And was it a breach of Lebanese sovereignty?
Jon and Emily talk to former Newsnight defence editor Mark Urban, and Professor of International Law, Philippe Sands.
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0:12.4 | When the news came through yesterday that there had been this attack in Lebanon on people having pages that belong to Hezbollah and thousands of pages |
0:27.5 | exploding simultaneously. It seemed faintly unbelievable, ludicrous, ridiculous. But it's real, |
0:42.2 | and it did happen. and now we see that there is a day too, this time not pages exploding, but handheld walkie-talkies. It looks like an astonishing |
0:52.0 | security failure by Hezbollah and a military success for Israel, |
0:57.8 | although they have not claimed responsibility, but it's hard to see who else would have the capability to do that. |
1:04.0 | But what about the ethics of it? What about the legality of it? |
1:07.5 | Where does this leave peace in a region which is already at boiling point? Welcome to the |
1:15.2 | newsagents. The newsagents. It's John. It's Emily. And we are reunited actually for the first |
1:23.9 | time this week in Newsagents' global headquarters. Did you have fun in New York? |
1:28.9 | Yeah, but I have to say, my world turned upside down when I heard the story that was coming out of Lebanon. |
1:34.5 | And you could tell in the kind of radio presenters, the newsreaders' voices, |
1:38.9 | they didn't quite know how to respond to it. |
1:40.9 | It is the kind of land of futurist exploding devices. |
1:47.2 | And Hesbola are a prescribed terrorist group in this country and many others. There's also something that is sort of the scale |
1:52.5 | was so big. You're kind of going, what just happened? How did, how did you know that every |
1:57.4 | pager was going to be a Hesbohler operative. And how did you manage to get explosives into pages? |
2:03.2 | And we still don't know what happened, |
2:04.9 | whether it was a lithium battery that blew up. |
2:06.8 | There are kind of myriad questions. |
2:08.8 | The defence world, you know, a friend of mine who works for a very big defence company, |
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