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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots as a spectator's daily politics podcast. I'm Katie

Bors and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson and James Versafe.

The vaccine program continues at pace, but yet we're hearing warnings from various government

advisors that in terms of freedoms coming back, it might take a little bit longer than first expected.

Neil Ferguson has given an interview this morning and he has suggested that summer holidays

abroad at least could be a distant dream. Here's what he had to say. I'm optimistic. We'll be

able to start seeing each other again in the next month, which is within the roadmap plan.

And I'm personally looking forward to a haircut, which will be a nice side of

normality, and it will be a gradual process. Depending what happens in other areas of the world,

you know, travel may be one of the later things to be relaxed. But I think we will,

whilst not everything will be back to normal, by the summer, by certainly by the autumn,

it will feel a lot more normal.

Fraser, what do you make of this warning? We've also, over recent months, had ministers say

you shouldn't book holidays, some saying you shouldn't even book holidays within the UK.

I think we should take it very seriously. Neil Ferguson's got a kind of resputean-like

haul over this government. He also shares a lot more of his thinking than the government does.

And right now we're in a sort of democratic black spot where the government announces things,

but we're never quite sure of the reasons behind its decisions.

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