Are Statcast Pages Pointless?
Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
The Athletic
4.7 • 875 Ratings
🗓️ 25 May 2023
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Eno and Welsh discuss a couple of Statcast anomalies, and deep dive into a listener question of the how trust worthy Statcast pages really are. We're also digging into Bryce Miller, Michael Kopech and more.
Rundown
1:53 - The curious case of Ke'Bryan Hayes Statcast page
8:21 - Will Ke'Bryan ever live up to his Statcast page?
12:13 - Top and Bottom 10 Barrel % leaders
14:20 - What Eno looks for to determine future power
19:09 - The curious case of Bryce Elder's Statcast page
20:27 - Eno's first time looking at Statcast pitcher sliders
26:20 - Statcast percentile screen shots
28:27 - Prospect who beat projection
34:22 - Expected stats and Projections
36:12 - Stuff+ variance over the season
39:08 - Bryce Miller
42:45 - Bryce Miller release point vs the league
46:07 - Bryce Miller vs Jacob DeGrom pitch release points
50:42 - Michael Kopech success
54:57 - Andrew Abbott's 21 WHIFF Wednesday
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hello, friends, and welcome in to Rates and barrels. |
| 0:19.8 | I am not DVR. DVR is enjoying, you know, the baby, |
| 0:24.7 | the kid, the not vacation. He was this like, or not enjoying it. He was like, I got to take |
| 0:31.5 | some time off. And then I was like, oh, is it vacation? He's like, no, I have to, the wife is going back to work. And I'm like, oh, okay. So you're just going to be working at home, just not on this current job. So I am filling in. I'm Chris Welsh. That is Enosaris. And we are here to talk about the stuff and things. And we are hoping the best for our dear Derek Van Riper. Ena, you got some |
| 0:55.9 | articles that are coming out. We're going to probably be mentioning in this. And we've got a few other |
| 1:00.4 | crazy things. And I had this crazy thing come up. And I've been dying to talk to you about it and |
| 1:04.9 | actually teased it on some of the other shows that I've been doing because it's such a weird |
| 1:08.8 | concept. And the best way I can do it is just be ridiculous about it. |
| 1:14.3 | And the concept is, is stat cast worthless? |
| 1:19.2 | And of course it's not. |
| 1:20.6 | Of course it's not. |
| 1:21.5 | But I've had two different places that I've been doing shows with two different players |
| 1:27.0 | present some interesting |
| 1:28.4 | ideas of where stat cast is completely wrong. |
| 1:32.6 | And I think there's there's also a building community of people that I think are still trying |
| 1:37.5 | to comprehend like expected stats and you hear a lot of analysts talking about it more. |
| 1:42.6 | And I think maybe some old school type of people |
| 1:45.5 | listening to fantasy get frustrated about it but it is obviously a great tool and obviously statcast is not |
| 1:51.5 | worthless but where we're going with it today is we've got two players I want to break down with you |
| 1:57.5 | and get your takes on them and let's start with the hitter. The hitter that was presented to me. |
| 2:02.1 | And this is kind of an opposite take from the other guy. |
| 2:04.6 | So this should be fun. |
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