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Ask Pastor John

Are Small Churches Less Fruitful?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

Christianity, Pastor, John Piper, Theology, Ask, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Desiring God, 163859, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.94.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2017

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

A pastor’s job is not to count how many people come on Sunday, but to make faith-filled, self-denying, fruit-bearing disciples.

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When Jesus talks about fruitfulness, he is not afraid to throw around numbers, real numbers,

0:10.1

numbers like 100 fold and 60 fold and 30 fold.

0:15.0

So does this mean pastoring a small church that is not growing less fruitful than pastoring

0:19.2

a large growing church?

0:21.0

It's a question from a listener named Wilson, who is a discouraged pastor.

0:25.8

From Dr. Pastor John, I was told by a seminary professor that to bear fruit is to reach an

0:30.6

increasing number of souls with the gospel.

0:33.0

I think he gets this from Matthew 1323.

0:35.9

Basically, if you only serve a handful of people, a congregation of 40, for example, you're

0:41.4

not bearing as much fruit as a larger church.

0:44.5

God is investing in you and seeing less significant fruit in return.

0:48.7

He wants big fruit measured in the hundred folds.

0:51.8

I believe many pastors, especially from small churches, struggle with the weight of this pressure.

0:57.0

What is the fruit that Jesus meant when he says bearing fruit?

1:00.6

Is it number of converts?

1:02.2

Is it personal holiness or repentance?

1:04.7

And how did you define success and fruit in your own pastoral labors?

1:09.8

Well, I sure want to be used by God at this moment to help the discouraged pastor keep his hand on the plow.

1:19.4

When John the Baptist comes in preparation for Jesus, one huge part of his message is

1:29.1

bear fruit in keeping with repentance.

1:33.3

Even now, the axe is laid to the root of the trees.

1:37.2

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

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