Are Robo Advisors Worth It Even With Tax Loss Harvesting and Direct Indexing?
Money For the Rest of Us
J. David Stein
4.5 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 25 June 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
We examine how robo-advisors have evolved over the past decade to determine if their services justify the fees they charge.
Topics covered include:
- How large are the top 5 robo-advisors
- Robo-advisor fees
- Robo-advisor holdings
- Why robo-advisors are turning toward direct indexing for tax loss harvesting
- How much excess return does tax loss harvesting generate
- Who can benefit from using robo-advisors
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Show Notes
An Empirical Evaluation of Tax-Loss Harvesting Alpha by Shomesh Chaudhuri et al.—SSRN
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Money for the Rest of Us. This is a personal finance show on money, how it works, how to invest it, and how to live without worrying about it. I'm your host, David Stein. Today is episode 529. It's titled, Are Robo Advisors worth it? |
| 0:15.8 | Recently, I received an email from a member of our membership community, Money for the Rest of Us Plus. |
| 0:23.1 | She was curious about my thoughts on robo-advisor platforms. |
| 0:28.5 | She has invested with Betterman in her HSA account and has a brokerage account with Wealthfront. |
| 0:36.6 | She's read some reports that these robo-advisors |
| 0:40.8 | that offer tax loss harvesting, which I'll explain in a minute, that that's more of a |
| 0:45.6 | marketing gimmick and doesn't really add a lot of value. And then there was a concern that, |
| 0:51.7 | well, their fees are so low and they're not profitable and potentially |
| 0:56.2 | they'll have to raise fees in the future. So in this episode, we're going to take a look at |
| 1:01.0 | Robo Advisors. We'll look at tax loss harvesting, the potential benefits of that, and an element of |
| 1:07.4 | tax loss harvesting called direct indexing. First, a robo advisor, it's an account. |
| 1:13.9 | They started just over a decade ago, maybe it's been 15 years now, but they have low account |
| 1:19.2 | minimums, often zero. You go through a process of answering questions to determine your risk |
| 1:26.2 | profile, and it's all automated. So there's no |
| 1:29.0 | individual that you're working with. It's all done online. Once the Robo Advisor platform determines |
| 1:36.1 | your risk profile, your portfolio objectives, it selects an asset allocation and chooses the |
| 1:43.4 | underlying investments, which are primarily exchange-traded |
| 1:46.8 | funds. The Robo Advisor will rebalance your portfolio, and it may offer tax loss harvesting. |
| 1:54.6 | Tax loss harvesting is a strategy where investments that have dropped in value are sold to |
| 2:00.3 | realize a capital loss, which can then |
| 2:02.9 | offset capital gains, reducing one's taxable income. Once that asset is sold, it is typically |
| 2:10.0 | invested in a similar type asset. It could be an ETF, or if it's a strategy that is selling individual stocks, |
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