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On Point | Podcast

Are return-to-office mandates backfiring?

On Point | Podcast

WBUR

Talk Show, Daily News, News, Npr, On Point, Daily

4.23.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Apple, Meta, Amazon and Disney want workers to be in the office more days per week. How does where we work affect our productivity and office culture?

Transcript

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0:00.0

On May 1st, Amazon CEO Andy Jassy stood in the lobby of the company's Seattle headquarters,

0:07.5

fist bumping employees.

0:10.0

In a company video called Amazon Welcome Day, you see Jassy surrounded by balloons, smiling

0:16.0

greeters dressed in orange company polos, and free bananas from Amazon's community banana

0:21.8

stand.

0:22.8

Welcome to me, you.

0:26.0

Well I'm really excited to have more of my teammates back in the office.

0:29.4

I think we're pretty convinced that we're going to invent and collaborate better when we're

0:33.2

in the office more together.

0:34.2

I think the real thing that happens is really different.

0:37.0

I think the ability to map out ideas and the whiteboard when you're done with a meeting

0:40.5

is different.

0:41.5

Those serendipitous meetings happen a lot more when we're together.

0:48.6

Amazon's corporate staffers are now required to be in the office at least three days a

0:54.0

week, meaning employees are in person, some for the first time since the pandemic, and

0:59.7

others for the first time ever.

1:03.8

Last month's official end of the nation's pandemic emergency declaration kickstarted the

1:08.0

latest round of back to the office pushes for many American companies.

1:13.2

Apple, Meta and Disney, they all want their workers off Zoom and back to working face

1:18.2

to face.

1:19.5

The reason why was best evangelized by Silicon Valley's creative guru, the late Steve Jobs.

1:26.2

He designed Apple's circular headquarters to force people to walk through the office,

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