Are Personal Essays Performative? with Kat Rosenfield
Totally Booked with Zibby
Zibby Owens
4.5 • 641 Ratings
🗓️ 3 April 2026
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
How to Survive in the Woods by Kat Rosenfield is truly hard to put down. Three friends go in the woods where two of them plot against the third in a love triangle that shape shifts. Kat and I spoke about the book and then moved on to how she finds personal essays performative. (I mentioned that I write them!) Thoughts on our discussion? If you like the idea of hiking (even without moving from the couch), this is for you.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Zibi Owens, and you're listening to Totally Booked with Zibby. Formerly, moms don't have time to read books. In my daily show, I interview today's latest, best-selling, buzziest, or underrated authors and story creators, whose work I think is worth your time. As a bookstore owner, publisher, author, and obviously podcaster, I get a comprehensive |
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| 0:40.2 | at Zibby Owens. Kat Rosenfield is the author of How to Survive in the Woods, a novel. She is the author |
| 0:50.8 | of six books, including No One Will Miss Her, which was an Edgar Award nominee for best novel, and the New York Times bestselling, A Trick of Light, co-authored with the late, great Stan Lee. |
| 1:02.5 | A former reporter for MTV News and current columnist for the free press, her essays and cultural criticism have appeared in the Boston Globe, Vulture, Wired, Air Mail, |
| 1:12.5 | and the New York Times. She lives in Connecticut. Welcome, Kat. Thank you so much for coming on to |
| 1:18.4 | talk about how to survive in the woods. Congrats. Thank you so much for having me. It's my pleasure. |
| 1:23.7 | I have to say, I could not put this book down. You got me, like, across the country. |
| 1:28.8 | It took me, I think, three quarters of a flight. And I was like, I'm just going to read for an hour and then I have to get to my emails. And then I was like, I'm just going to read another half an hour. Anyway, I read the whole thing. It was so good. I just couldn't finish this last words. I love it. Yeah. That rarely happens to me. I have to say, well, I don't know. Anyway, it |
| 1:43.7 | happened this time. So congrats. It was really good. Thank you. You're welcome. Why don't you tell listeners what your book is about? Sure. So I'm going to try not to do any spoiling. I'm going to just give the very short elevator pitch, which is if you enjoy 90s era sex thrillers, like basic instinct, but you're like, I love this. I wish there were bears in it. I've written the book for you. |
| 2:08.4 | Wilderness thriller, survival, takes place on the Appalachian Trail. And there's a little bit of a love triangle at the center of it. |
| 2:16.1 | That's so interesting. I in a million |
| 2:18.0 | years would not have pitched it as basic instinct in the woods. And that is why your mind is very |
| 2:22.3 | creative and pretty awesome. Oh my gosh. I felt like it was more like wild gone wrong or something |
| 2:29.0 | like that. It could also be that, you know, many different approaches to the same subject matter. |
| 2:35.7 | Okay. You wrote in your note at the end that your mother had gone hiking into some sort of similar place, and that was part of how you learned the ins and outs of this particular region where you set the book. Can you talk a little bit about that and also just where this whole |
| 2:51.2 | idea came from? Yeah, of course. So my family has always spent a lot of time in Maine and particularly |
| 2:58.2 | in the part of Maine where the Appalachian Trail runs through. The northernmost part is called |
| 3:03.3 | the 100 mile wilderness. It is so called because for 100 miles, there is no real easy exit |
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