This is an IHeart podcast.

It's ID Part 2, and I'm one of your host, Janet Kramer.

And usually on this podcast, we are talking about people that are in their chapter 2 looking for love again after divorce.

But what if the key to not getting divorced is ethical non-monogamy?

We're going to dive into this today.

My guest is documenting her experience with an open marriage through her social

media openly committed. Please welcome Danielle to the podcast. Danielle, thank you so much for coming on.

I do part two. We really appreciate you coming on. And, you know, I have to say it's interesting

because, you know, we've got different hosts for different guests. And when I got sent your rundown, I was like, oh, this is funny. I know why they picked me.

I was like, because I was like this, I was a cute joke. I heart. I like it.

Wait, why did they pick you? Now I need to know. Well, so I, my last husband, very happily married now,

but my ex-husband was, had multiple, multiple, multiple affairs in our marriage. And so I have

quite an opinion when it comes around, when it comes to cheating.

And, you know, I've spoken to people before that have been in open relationships.

And again, I just come from a place of, I don't know how that works when I've been in some, but mine was so different, right?

Because mine was a lot of lying and deceit.

And it seems like in an open marriage, there is more communication around it.

Oh, I have a lot of opinions about cheating too.

Okay, great.

Well, let's start there. So let me, let me, let me, let me hear your opinions on cheating. Yeah. I mean, I think

the definition of cheating is betrayal and is lying. And I think so often I've ended up talking to

hundreds of people exploring open relationships for multiple reasons. And the thing that I've

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