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GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

Are identity politics a trap? A conversation with author and political scientist Yascha Mounk

GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

GZERO Media

International Relations, Government, Foreign Policy, Gzero World, News Commentary, Trump, News, Global Economy, Geopolitics, Politics, Ian Bremmer

4.6684 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Political scientist and author Yascha Mounk joins Ian Bremmer on the GZERO World Podcast to discuss his latest book, “The Identity Trap: A Story of Ideas and Power in Our Time.” Mounk delves into the complicated dynamics of identity politics and challenges the conventional wisdom from the progressive left that focusing on identity and what makes us different from each other leads to a more equitable society. By highlighting our differences rather than shared values, Mounk argues, well-meaning liberals are exacerbating societal division and hindering progress toward greater equality. While acknowledging that our society is deeply imperfect and genuine injustices remain, Mounk unpacks the implications of identity politics and questions whether the current focus on identity truly serves the cause of inclusivity or social harmony.

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0:00.0

I think the important thing is not to build a culture in which we are forced to double down

0:07.1

on narrow identities, in which we cease to build the broader identities like ones as Americans

0:14.6

that allow us to sustain solidarity with people who are very different from us.

0:20.4

Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast.

0:22.6

This is where you'll find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

0:27.6

I'm Ian Bremmer, and today we are talking about identity, politics

0:31.6

and how those two things come together to create the complicated, contentious idea of,

0:35.6

yes, yes, yes, identity politics.

0:39.3

From race, gender, to profession, to nationality, to astrological science.

0:43.3

Scorpio, right here, that's right.

0:44.3

There are a million ways.

0:46.3

We define who we are.

0:48.3

Not more than a million, not less than a million, a million.

0:51.3

And people feel strongly about them. But at what point does a focus on what makes us different hurt more than it helps?

1:00.6

When does a healthy appreciation for culture and heritage stifled discourse and deny mutual understanding?

1:07.4

I'm going to unpack that tension today with my guest, Yashamunk.

1:13.0

He's a political scientist, as am I.

1:15.3

It's my favorite identity, in fact, whose new book, The Identity Trap, explores the origins,

1:20.8

the consequences and the limitations of so-called, and I quote,

1:24.9

wokeness.

1:26.1

Let's get to it.

1:32.6

Thank you. called, and I quote, wokeness. Let's get to it. The GZero World podcast is brought to you by our lead sponsor, Prologis.

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