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GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

America vs itself: Political scientist Francis Fukuyama on the state of democracy

GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

GZERO Media

International Relations, Government, Foreign Policy, Gzero World, News Commentary, Trump, News, Global Economy, Geopolitics, Politics, Ian Bremmer

4.6684 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In this edition of the GZERO World podcast, Ian Bremmer speaks with Stanford’s Francis Fukuyama about the state of democracy worldwide and here in the US.    2024 will be a pivotal year for democracy, and nowhere more so than here at home. A quarter of Americans believe that the FBI was behind January 6. But as the late New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, “You’re entitled to your own opinions, but you’re not entitled to your own facts.” But today, in America, we cannot agree on basic facts. On this note, Fukuyama joins Bremmer to discuss the global and domestic threats to democracy.

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The problem is that I think a lot of people on the left have been crying wolf for a long time.

0:05.7

And so they have accused many Republicans over the years, you know, people like Mitt Romney,

0:12.0

who now looks like a, you know, a saint for his willingness to criticize Trump.

0:17.0

I mean, all of these Republicans made mistakes and they had policy differences that were

0:22.0

quite serious with people on the left, but they were never threats to democratic institutions,

0:28.5

you know, in themselves. And I think that's really the choice that we're going to face

0:32.7

in the upcoming presidential election.

0:40.3

Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast. This is where you can listen to extended conversations

0:43.3

for my interviews on public television.

0:45.3

I'm Ian Bremmer, and today we are taking a cold, hard look

0:48.3

at the fate of democracy in the extremely consequential year to come. Around the world, elections will test the limits of authoritarian appeal and the guardrails of democratic institutions,

1:01.0

and that includes particularly right here in the United States.

1:05.0

This comes at a time when one quarter, one quarter of Americans believe that the FBI was behind the January 6th

1:13.3

insurrection at the Capitol.

1:15.4

That's right.

1:16.2

25%.

1:17.1

So there's not a lot of shared trust among Americans or even shared agreement on basic facts

1:23.9

as we head towards November the 5th.

1:26.1

Here to talk about the global and domestic threats to democracy in 2024

1:30.2

is renowned Stanford political scientists.

1:33.6

No, not me, another one, Francis Fukuyam.

1:42.9

The GZero World podcast is brought to you by our lead sponsor, Prologis.

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